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		<title>By: The Other Brian Whitmer: The LMS Web 2.0 Scramble</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator>The Other Brian Whitmer: The LMS Web 2.0 Scramble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 23:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and other services have already done a smashing job of that part (as a side note, I&#039;m impressed by Oracle&#039;s new tactic. They&#039;re basically saying &quot;we know your LMS doesn&#039;t do social, so we&#039;ll take care of that part&quot;), [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and other services have already done a smashing job of that part (as a side note, I&#8217;m impressed by Oracle&#8217;s new tactic. They&#8217;re basically saying &#8220;we know your LMS doesn&#8217;t do social, so we&#8217;ll take care of that part&#8221;), [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Using Facebook as LMS &#171; Oraclawy&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>Using Facebook as LMS &#171; Oraclawy&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] sis  To schools direct .introducing school in facebook [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sis  To schools direct .introducing school in facebook [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1188</link>
		<dc:creator>Glen Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 22:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great that you have ACU on board. They really are innovators in this space. I wish you the best with your other candidate schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great that you have ACU on board. They really are innovators in this space. I wish you the best with your other candidate schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mott</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Thanks for the clarification. Your approach makes a lot of sense. The ideas of layers, openness, interoperability are all great steps in the right direction. The more automony we give to students to control their own spaces how they want to control them, the better.

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael,</p>
<p>Thanks for the clarification. Your approach makes a lot of sense. The ideas of layers, openness, interoperability are all great steps in the right direction. The more automony we give to students to control their own spaces how they want to control them, the better.</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Staton</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1186</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Staton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jon Mott

Thanks for the interest.

We have found through our experience with &lt;a href=&quot;http://apps.facebook.com/courses&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Courses&lt;/a&gt; that students are largely uninterested in using Facebook as a learning platform, but they are very interested in using Facebook to connect with people in their academic environment in new and different ways.

They use it to predict who they should meet, to follow up with people they have met, to create a perception of keep in touch with light-hearted interactions, to express themselves in a low-stakes manner, and to accelerate their personal relationships by relating more comprehensive self-concepts.  Schools focuses on these concepts.  As we said, we&#039;re adding a social layer to what already exists in a campus environment, not competing with it.  And, we&#039;re tying campus relevant (and safe) information to Facebook.

Thanks for your insights.

Best,

Michael Staton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jon Mott</p>
<p>Thanks for the interest.</p>
<p>We have found through our experience with <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/courses" rel="nofollow">Courses</a> that students are largely uninterested in using Facebook as a learning platform, but they are very interested in using Facebook to connect with people in their academic environment in new and different ways.</p>
<p>They use it to predict who they should meet, to follow up with people they have met, to create a perception of keep in touch with light-hearted interactions, to express themselves in a low-stakes manner, and to accelerate their personal relationships by relating more comprehensive self-concepts.  Schools focuses on these concepts.  As we said, we&#8217;re adding a social layer to what already exists in a campus environment, not competing with it.  And, we&#8217;re tying campus relevant (and safe) information to Facebook.</p>
<p>Thanks for your insights.</p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Michael Staton</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mott</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1185</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a very interesting idea and is consistent with some of the things I&#039;ve been thinking about lately regarding &quot;open learning nteworks.&quot; But I can&#039;t help but wonder about the whole &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mfeldstein.com/the-creepy-treehouse/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;creepy treehouse&lt;/a&gt; problem.

I know this is anecdotal, but I&#039;ve had several conversations the past few weeks with students on my campus (BYU) about how weird it is to get friended by their professor on Facebook. Maybe new applications like this will force the culture of Facebook to change. However, I worrry that many will not find it a welcome change since they largerly think of Facebook as their *social* destination online, and not a *learning* destination.

What are you thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a very interesting idea and is consistent with some of the things I&#8217;ve been thinking about lately regarding &#8220;open learning nteworks.&#8221; But I can&#8217;t help but wonder about the whole <a href="http://www.mfeldstein.com/the-creepy-treehouse/" rel="nofollow">creepy treehouse</a> problem.</p>
<p>I know this is anecdotal, but I&#8217;ve had several conversations the past few weeks with students on my campus (BYU) about how weird it is to get friended by their professor on Facebook. Maybe new applications like this will force the culture of Facebook to change. However, I worrry that many will not find it a welcome change since they largerly think of Facebook as their *social* destination online, and not a *learning* destination.</p>
<p>What are you thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1184</link>
		<dc:creator>andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 08:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Michael Staton:

Well that definitely much better than I presumed. As long as there are options (i.e. using the app outside Facebook) I don&#039;t really object.

However I do see some issues with what in effect is outfitting facebook with a seal of approval from various institutions when thinking about the various privacy issues that is associated with facebook (beacon, beacon^2, etc.).

However those are facebook-issues and not really LMS issues...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Staton:</p>
<p>Well that definitely much better than I presumed. As long as there are options (i.e. using the app outside Facebook) I don&#8217;t really object.</p>
<p>However I do see some issues with what in effect is outfitting facebook with a seal of approval from various institutions when thinking about the various privacy issues that is associated with facebook (beacon, beacon^2, etc.).</p>
<p>However those are facebook-issues and not really LMS issues&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Interactive Media for Higher Education</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1183</link>
		<dc:creator>Interactive Media for Higher Education</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Walled Garden + Walled Garden = A Third Walled Gar...&lt;/strong&gt;

A start-up company called Inigral has recently launched a beta product that connects Oracle&#039;s Campus Solutions Student Information System to Facebook. The product, called Schools on Facebook, brings student data (allegedly through secure methods) to ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Walled Garden + Walled Garden = A Third Walled Gar&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>A start-up company called Inigral has recently launched a beta product that connects Oracle&#8217;s Campus Solutions Student Information System to Facebook. The product, called Schools on Facebook, brings student data (allegedly through secure methods) to &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Staton</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1182</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Staton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andy,

The data never goes to nor touches Facebook.  Campuses can choose to have the app running in a cloud somewhere that we set up, or they can also choose to run it from a local server on their campus.  Facebook can never get hold of the data.

In addition, students don&#039;t &quot;have&quot; to create a Facebook account.

Just to clear any misunderstandings with the way applications work on Facebook, applications do not live within Facebook.  Facebook merely presents a window for the application and communicates back and forth necessary information to make the relationship work (facebook id number, thumbnail pic, notification and feed item templates, etc.)  Facebook couldn&#039;t even get an applications data if it tried.

Hope that clears things up for you.  Best,

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andy,</p>
<p>The data never goes to nor touches Facebook.  Campuses can choose to have the app running in a cloud somewhere that we set up, or they can also choose to run it from a local server on their campus.  Facebook can never get hold of the data.</p>
<p>In addition, students don&#8217;t &#8220;have&#8221; to create a Facebook account.</p>
<p>Just to clear any misunderstandings with the way applications work on Facebook, applications do not live within Facebook.  Facebook merely presents a window for the application and communicates back and forth necessary information to make the relationship work (facebook id number, thumbnail pic, notification and feed item templates, etc.)  Facebook couldn&#8217;t even get an applications data if it tried.</p>
<p>Hope that clears things up for you.  Best,</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Staton</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/sis-to-facebook-direct-introducing-schools-on-facebook/#comment-1181</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Staton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 16:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that we have thought about FERPA pretty heavily (and paid our high-profile law firm a hefty sum to help us), and there is nothing in our application that violates the law or someone&#039;s right to privacy.  We have specific measures to put both risk averse decision makers and law-suit happy parents at ease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that we have thought about FERPA pretty heavily (and paid our high-profile law firm a hefty sum to help us), and there is nothing in our application that violates the law or someone&#8217;s right to privacy.  We have specific measures to put both risk averse decision makers and law-suit happy parents at ease.</p>
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