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  1. smkeesle
    February 19, 2013

    eCornell is a for-profit school and we use Canvas as the delivery platform for our courses.

  2. Fred M Beshears
    February 19, 2013

    The main LMS support group at UC Berkeley – Educational Technology Services – has a statement on its website that indicates that it plans to (or is at least thinking about) switching from Sakai (locally known as bSpace) to Canvas. Here’s the blurb as of 2/19/2013:

    “Instructure’s Canvas is a Learning Management System (LMS) that ETS plans to pilot later this Spring and Summer. We see it as the eventual successor to bSpace course sites.”

    This is interesting since Berkeley was a member of Sakai for many years. As I recall, ETS started using bSpace/sakai back around 2001.

    Before Sakai, ETS supported the low end versions of Blackboard and WebCT. When the campus finally got around to deciding that they needed an enterprise level LMS, they eventually decided to not go with the enterprise version of either Blackboard or WebCT; instead they went with Sakai and hired a number of programmers to contribute to the project.

    So, now it looks as if ETS may switch from Sakai to Canvas. I’m not sure if they will continue to employ programmers (or, if so, how many) to develop Canvas.

    Finally, the UC System is a member of IMS Global, which sets interoperability standards for LMS. In theory, at least, interoperability standards could help schools carve up an integrated LMS into parts (e.g. quiz engine, grade book, various collaboration tools, etc.) that communicate via web services. For the time being, however, it looks like UC Berkeley will continue to use an integrated LMS.

    The ETS website is at: http://ets.berkeley.edu/

  3. ditchdoc48
    February 19, 2013

    I am alsways surprised that the private industry ignores the largest LMS, Atlas Pro. A Govt Off the Shelf (GOTS) product by Defense Acquisition University and Booz Allen, it currently supports over 10 MILLION students worldwide in over 133 countries.

  4. Fred M Beshears
    February 19, 2013

    It looks like I’m a bit slow on the uptake. Ken Romeo from Stanford and Phil Hill posts discussing Berkeley’s plan to leave Sakai OAE.Phil’s is at

    http://mfeldstein.com/now-uc-berkeley-and-charles-sturt-university-leave-sakai-oae/

    Ken’s is at:
    http://www.stanford.edu/group/ats/cgi-bin/hivetalkin/?p=2539

  5. Phil Hill
    February 19, 2013

    Fred, no problem on the repost, although the information you’re sharing is actually broader. The post from Ken and myself referred to Sakai OAE, which wasn’t yet in production. bSpace is Sakai CLE, so the news of Berkeley moving from Sakai to Canvas is indeed significant.

  6. Phil Hill
    February 19, 2013

    Chris, I believe (correct me if I’m wrong) that Atlas Pro is designed for the corporate-training / gov’t training side of e-learning and not for higher ed. Schools don’t use Atlas Pro for the same reason they don’t use SumTotal or Saba for higher education courses – different market, different needs even with shared LMS name.

  7. Jerry Smith
    February 19, 2013

    Where does moodle fit in all these?

  8. Fred M Beshears
    February 19, 2013

    Jerry,
    here’s an interesting graphic by Phil Hill (dated 9/14/2011) that does show Moodle’s share of the LMS market relative to some of the other players:

    New Mentality Enters LMS Market:
    http://www.deltainitiative.com/bloggers/author-phil-hill/new-mentality-enters-lms-market

  9. Fred Beshears
    February 19, 2013

    Jerry,

    I just saw one other (slightly more recent post) from Phil on LMS market share, this time on e-Literate:

    State of the Higher Education LMS Market: A Graphical View
    state-of-the-higher-education-lms-market-a-graphical-view

    This one has more discussion of Moodle. In particular, it mentions that Blackboard has changed their strategy and purchaced two Moodle service providers: MoodleRooms and NetSpot.

    Fred

  10. Phil Hill
    February 19, 2013

    Fred, thanks for sharing additional posts on subject.

    Jerry, this chart is based on institutions with high enrollments of students in online courses in the US. I basically went top-down from the largest (U of Phoenix) down to about 20k level. The short answer to your question is that none of these online programs uses Moodle. It’s interesting that large online programs outside the US, such as Open University in UK, do use Moodle, but not here in the US.

  11. Fred M Beshears
    February 19, 2013

    Jerry,

    Here’s the full URL:
    http://mfeldstein.com/state-of-the-higher-education-lms-market-a-graphical-view/

    Be sure to check out the extended debate in the comment section on this post regarding the difficulty of gathering data on LMS “market share”. For example, many campuses support more than one LMS, but have one “official” LMS supported by some central IT department. So, the central IT department might support Blackboard or Sakai, but you’ll find departments running Moodle.

    Also, some really big institutions such as the British Open University run “Moodle”, but they’ve made extensive modifications to the code. So, is that still really Moodle?

    Fred

  12. Peter Shea (@pshea99)
    February 20, 2013

    Moodle may have an entry into this market via SUNY Empire State College (which has the largest online enrollments in the SUNY System). I believe they are in the process of converting from Angel to Moodlerooms at the moment.

  13. Phil Hill
    February 21, 2013

    Peter, thanks for the update – I did find some more info here:
    http://commons.esc.edu/move2moodle/

    Do you know the number of distance learning students at ESC?

  14. Ben
    February 23, 2013

    Haiku LMS is doing wonders for school districts and small schools around the country.

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