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		<title>By: NIXTY&#187; Blog Archive &#187; NIXTY Nationwide Tour!</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/web-20-lms-opportunities-and-obstacles-exploring-opensocial-openidand-opencourseware-in-nixty/#comment-1151</link>
		<dc:creator>NIXTY&#187; Blog Archive &#187; NIXTY Nationwide Tour!</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Feldstein. I got to know Michael a bit better through working with him on a special edition of On the Horizon that addressed the future of online learning and learning management systems. He is a prolific [...]</description>
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		<title>By: NIXTY&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web 2.0 CMS/LMS Opportunities: Exploring OpenSocial, OpenID,and OpenCourseWare in NIXTY</title>
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		<dc:creator>NIXTY&#187; Blog Archive &#187; Web 2.0 CMS/LMS Opportunities: Exploring OpenSocial, OpenID,and OpenCourseWare in NIXTY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Feldstein is the editor of a forthcoming volume of the journal On the Horizon that focuses on distributed learning. I&#8217;ve got a post up on his popular blog, e-Literate, that discusses the benefits of harnessing Web 2.0 strengths in the CMS/LMS. I write quite a bit on the importance of OpenSocial, OpenID and OpenCourseWare. I&#8217;ve cut and pasted the bit on OpenID b/c it is a little known subject, but one that we think is pretty important. To read the full post go here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Feldstein is the editor of a forthcoming volume of the journal On the Horizon that focuses on distributed learning. I&#8217;ve got a post up on his popular blog, e-Literate, that discusses the benefits of harnessing Web 2.0 strengths in the CMS/LMS. I write quite a bit on the importance of OpenSocial, OpenID and OpenCourseWare. I&#8217;ve cut and pasted the bit on OpenID b/c it is a little known subject, but one that we think is pretty important. To read the full post go here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, sounds fascinating. I appreciate the different perspectives and solutions that we are all working on. I imagine, collectively, we&#039;ll get a good ways towards solving some of the major problems that we are currently struggling with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, sounds fascinating. I appreciate the different perspectives and solutions that we are all working on. I imagine, collectively, we&#8217;ll get a good ways towards solving some of the major problems that we are currently struggling with.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen--

Thanks for sharing this perspective. I think your roadmap is realistic and viable. I might add one that we&#039;re pursuing at BYU. We&#039;re beginning to disaggregate the functions of the CMS into more flexible, open, stand-alone components (yes, that means SOA). The first major step in this process is to build (or implement) a &quot;gradebook&quot; that&#039;s not inside the CMS.

Our intent is to create an secure yet open application in which the full range of student work can be reviewed by instructors and peers. Both teachers and students will be able to enter the gradebook through our institutional portal without entering any other app (including the CMS). We also intend to build it in such a way that it can harvest content / evaluative data from our CMS, our proctored testing environment, faculty spreadsheets (Google Docs!), etc. etc. etc.

I think your hypothesis will hold up well over time. I&#039;d love to chat with you about it further. You can e-mail me a jonmott at byu dot edu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen&#8211;</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing this perspective. I think your roadmap is realistic and viable. I might add one that we&#8217;re pursuing at BYU. We&#8217;re beginning to disaggregate the functions of the CMS into more flexible, open, stand-alone components (yes, that means SOA). The first major step in this process is to build (or implement) a &#8220;gradebook&#8221; that&#8217;s not inside the CMS.</p>
<p>Our intent is to create an secure yet open application in which the full range of student work can be reviewed by instructors and peers. Both teachers and students will be able to enter the gradebook through our institutional portal without entering any other app (including the CMS). We also intend to build it in such a way that it can harvest content / evaluative data from our CMS, our proctored testing environment, faculty spreadsheets (Google Docs!), etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>I think your hypothesis will hold up well over time. I&#8217;d love to chat with you about it further. You can e-mail me a jonmott at byu dot edu.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 14:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon, thanks for the comment and encouragement. I really enjoyed your blog post as well. Your point about the importance of convincing administrators, decision makers, and faculty at institutions is right on target. Like you, however, I sense there will be considerable resistance to large-scale change. Here are some additional thoughts on helping these folks feel more comfortable with change.

1. We have to provide everything that they are used to with an expensive solution. That is, they have to know they&#039;ll have a strong SLA (99.9% uptime), co-location, secure and private information, robust functionality, tech support etc. If they know that these things are available, then they&#039;ll be more likely to embrace change.

2. Price is important. The only way these decision makers are going to get on board is if you can save them significant amounts of money AND they are convinced that they are not giving up any items outlined in #1.

3. They have to be able to try the product w/out having to leave their current LMS/CMS/VLE etc. If they can try the product for free, and use it for free, then they&#039;ll be more likely to trust it after a series of months. Then as their renewal date comes, the disincentive of having to pay much much more for the same product will begin to set it and they&#039;ll be more likely to consider alternatives.

4. There has to be a way for people to export material out of their own system and import it into the new system.

5. You have to provide great free tools to their educators and students. If they love it, then they&#039;ll have some influence on the decision makers.

6. The network effects have to be easy for their institutions to capitalize on. That is, you have to solve a lot of their problems; problems that they currently face and are not solved by their LMS provider.

That said, we don&#039;t realistically think that you&#039;ll even to begin to see much of this change occurring for 1-2 years. It just takes that long to build a strong and trustworthy brand. Universities and other large institutions won&#039;t actually start to switch over for 2-3 years (or potentially even more) and that will only be some of them.

What will likely happen in that time between 0-2 years, will be the typical disruptive approach that occurs in any industry. Disruptive innovations compete with non-competition. That is, solutions like we are describing here, will be used by institutions that want a LMS but cannot currently afford one. Similarly, they do not have the resources or technical expertise to host and/or customize an open source solution. Also, educators, trainers, and learners, that are currently underserved in this space (ie., no LMS company is really going out of its way to help students or educators), will also begin to use the platform in the bottom-up ways that have been cataloged in this series of posts.

Probably more information than you wanted in response to the change question, but we feel aligning institutions with the rest of us, particularly those in the late-developing world is extraordinarily important. If a solution solves real problems for decision makers, costs considerably less money, and is a trustworthy provider, then I think you&#039;ll begin to see change. That, at least, is our hypothesis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon, thanks for the comment and encouragement. I really enjoyed your blog post as well. Your point about the importance of convincing administrators, decision makers, and faculty at institutions is right on target. Like you, however, I sense there will be considerable resistance to large-scale change. Here are some additional thoughts on helping these folks feel more comfortable with change.</p>
<p>1. We have to provide everything that they are used to with an expensive solution. That is, they have to know they&#8217;ll have a strong SLA (99.9% uptime), co-location, secure and private information, robust functionality, tech support etc. If they know that these things are available, then they&#8217;ll be more likely to embrace change.</p>
<p>2. Price is important. The only way these decision makers are going to get on board is if you can save them significant amounts of money AND they are convinced that they are not giving up any items outlined in #1.</p>
<p>3. They have to be able to try the product w/out having to leave their current LMS/CMS/VLE etc. If they can try the product for free, and use it for free, then they&#8217;ll be more likely to trust it after a series of months. Then as their renewal date comes, the disincentive of having to pay much much more for the same product will begin to set it and they&#8217;ll be more likely to consider alternatives.</p>
<p>4. There has to be a way for people to export material out of their own system and import it into the new system.</p>
<p>5. You have to provide great free tools to their educators and students. If they love it, then they&#8217;ll have some influence on the decision makers.</p>
<p>6. The network effects have to be easy for their institutions to capitalize on. That is, you have to solve a lot of their problems; problems that they currently face and are not solved by their LMS provider.</p>
<p>That said, we don&#8217;t realistically think that you&#8217;ll even to begin to see much of this change occurring for 1-2 years. It just takes that long to build a strong and trustworthy brand. Universities and other large institutions won&#8217;t actually start to switch over for 2-3 years (or potentially even more) and that will only be some of them.</p>
<p>What will likely happen in that time between 0-2 years, will be the typical disruptive approach that occurs in any industry. Disruptive innovations compete with non-competition. That is, solutions like we are describing here, will be used by institutions that want a LMS but cannot currently afford one. Similarly, they do not have the resources or technical expertise to host and/or customize an open source solution. Also, educators, trainers, and learners, that are currently underserved in this space (ie., no LMS company is really going out of its way to help students or educators), will also begin to use the platform in the bottom-up ways that have been cataloged in this series of posts.</p>
<p>Probably more information than you wanted in response to the change question, but we feel aligning institutions with the rest of us, particularly those in the late-developing world is extraordinarily important. If a solution solves real problems for decision makers, costs considerably less money, and is a trustworthy provider, then I think you&#8217;ll begin to see change. That, at least, is our hypothesis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Mott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 22:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice to find another kindred spirit. I like your notion of &quot;evolving&quot; the LMS. It has done a lot of good for us, but there are too many built-in limitations. I agree that we need to leverage Web 2.0 technology without throwing away the benefits of an institutional LMS (for secure, private information like class rosters, grades, etc.). For a lengthier thought about how we get institutional leaders and faculty to go along for the ride with us, read my response to this post on my blog. :-)

I look forward to watching things unfold with Nixty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to find another kindred spirit. I like your notion of &#8220;evolving&#8221; the LMS. It has done a lot of good for us, but there are too many built-in limitations. I agree that we need to leverage Web 2.0 technology without throwing away the benefits of an institutional LMS (for secure, private information like class rosters, grades, etc.). For a lengthier thought about how we get institutional leaders and faculty to go along for the ride with us, read my response to this post on my blog. <img src='http://mfeldstein.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I look forward to watching things unfold with Nixty.</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, yes, you are exactly right. The OCW material will be much more accessible in those ways you&#039;ve highlighted. Robust VLE functionality will be a primary part of NIXTY. We are developing our own VLE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, yes, you are exactly right. The OCW material will be much more accessible in those ways you&#8217;ve highlighted. Robust VLE functionality will be a primary part of NIXTY. We are developing our own VLE.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian P. Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian P. Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Glen.  That&#039;s good, but I suppose I could do that all on my own - write my own objectives, download an electrical engineering course from MIT and retire to my room.

Where does my value-added come from?  I now look at your Open Courseware comments.  I don&#039;t care if the material is open or shut, but... sequenced learning/lessons, SCORM, discussion forums - we&#039;re getting very traditional VLE here. (And I like that.)

Do you envisage using an existing VLE for this part of NIXTY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Glen.  That&#8217;s good, but I suppose I could do that all on my own &#8211; write my own objectives, download an electrical engineering course from MIT and retire to my room.</p>
<p>Where does my value-added come from?  I now look at your Open Courseware comments.  I don&#8217;t care if the material is open or shut, but&#8230; sequenced learning/lessons, SCORM, discussion forums &#8211; we&#8217;re getting very traditional VLE here. (And I like that.)</p>
<p>Do you envisage using an existing VLE for this part of NIXTY?</p>
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		<title>By: Glen Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glen Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy, thanks for your interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cathy, thanks for your interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy Garland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cathy Garland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:58:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sheer numbers of people flocking to MySpace, Facebook and other social networks seems to prove that pepole are willing to invest in relationships.

The idea of using open-source tools to provide a more relational learning experience seems to answer the need.  I look forward to see where Nixty heads with this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sheer numbers of people flocking to MySpace, Facebook and other social networks seems to prove that pepole are willing to invest in relationships.</p>
<p>The idea of using open-source tools to provide a more relational learning experience seems to answer the need.  I look forward to see where Nixty heads with this.</p>
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