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	<title>Comments on: Why We Need More Standards</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/why_we_need_more_standards/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 02:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough. Always appreciate the insightful and moderating comments Michael. Cheers, Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough. Always appreciate the insightful and moderating comments Michael. Cheers, Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Feldstein</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/why_we_need_more_standards/#comment-373</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Feldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, of course, that experiences can be much richer outside of the LMS than inside. It just takes more work and skill, both for the faculty and the students, to weave those disparate tools together into a coherent class experience. It's terrific for early adopters but not so great for getting us into the thick part of the adoption bell curve.

I also agree that standards compliance, particularly with Blackboard and WebCT, leaves a lot to be desired, and that the standards themselves tend toward the baroque. (Whoever named IMS Simple Sequencing has a great sense of humor, for example.) We not only need &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; standards, we need &lt;i&gt;better&lt;/i&gt;, more pervasive, and more rigorously enforced standards. 

So please do continue whacking away at the mess. You'll get no argument from me there. I just don't want us to throw up our hands in despair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, of course, that experiences can be much richer outside of the LMS than inside. It just takes more work and skill, both for the faculty and the students, to weave those disparate tools together into a coherent class experience. It&#8217;s terrific for early adopters but not so great for getting us into the thick part of the adoption bell curve.</p>
<p>I also agree that standards compliance, particularly with Blackboard and WebCT, leaves a lot to be desired, and that the standards themselves tend toward the baroque. (Whoever named IMS Simple Sequencing has a great sense of humor, for example.) We not only need <i>more</i> standards, we need <i>better</i>, more pervasive, and more rigorously enforced standards. </p>
<p>So please do continue whacking away at the mess. You&#8217;ll get no argument from me there. I just don&#8217;t want us to throw up our hands in despair.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Leslie</title>
		<link>http://mfeldstein.com/why_we_need_more_standards/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Leslie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 00:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So my comment was maybe a bit snide, but I also think you misintepreted my meaning slightly. You seem to have taken my statement to have meant "how anyone manages to develop quality online learning experiences now" &lt;em&gt;in an LMS.&lt;/em&gt; I learn lots of stuff online now and regularly experience lots of quality online learning experiences. None of it happens in an LMS.

As for needing to understand standards to use the tools; ok, but my experience these days in supporting faculty around many of the issues these specific specifications are supposed to facilitate is that they are FAR from transparent. Just try explaning to a faculty member how to get their course out of WebCT in a way that works for anyone else in the world.  

But fair enough for calling me on the tone of the post. I will try to be more specific with my complaints about IMS and some of these specs rather than slagging the whole overbloated endeavor (or crap, there I go again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my comment was maybe a bit snide, but I also think you misintepreted my meaning slightly. You seem to have taken my statement to have meant &#8220;how anyone manages to develop quality online learning experiences now&#8221; <em>in an LMS.</em> I learn lots of stuff online now and regularly experience lots of quality online learning experiences. None of it happens in an LMS.</p>
<p>As for needing to understand standards to use the tools; ok, but my experience these days in supporting faculty around many of the issues these specific specifications are supposed to facilitate is that they are FAR from transparent. Just try explaning to a faculty member how to get their course out of WebCT in a way that works for anyone else in the world.  </p>
<p>But fair enough for calling me on the tone of the post. I will try to be more specific with my complaints about IMS and some of these specs rather than slagging the whole overbloated endeavor (or crap, there I go again).</p>
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